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		<title>By: Softersilk_Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Softersilk_Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can everyone commenting on IMA please agree to stop with the Kool-aid cliche already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can everyone commenting on IMA please agree to stop with the Kool-aid cliche already?</p>
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		<title>By: aGenius</title>
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		<dc:creator>aGenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think that just because I never came out with this earlier, I was not standing up for those people or against the actions of some of the Board for sometime now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think that just because I never came out with this earlier, I was not standing up for those people or against the actions of some of the Board for sometime now.</p>
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		<title>By: lifeisgoodnowandalways</title>
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		<dc:creator>lifeisgoodnowandalways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of us have been speaking up about IMA&#039;s issues since nearly day 1 when the forum was on eBay&#039;s boards and we spoke up to everyone who would listen, including ex BODs.  After being accused of being a mole, trying to take IMA down, having a grand agenda against IMA, being a PESA plant, having an axe to grind, and just about every other conspiracy theory under the sun, it got old being the one constantly standing up ALONE.  

It&#039;s a bit ironic and hypocritical for people to NOW rewrite history and act like they voiced concerns all along or have some holy martyr cross to bear, especially as some of those NOW voicing concerns were some of the ones who were bashing those few souls who DID speak up long ago.  IMA has always had issues and a few brave people DID speak up against them loudly and repeatedly before this latest implosion started.

Maybe if those speaking up now spoke up earlier or had removed their lips from Steve&#039;s koolaid fountain, this would not have happened and things could&#039;ve been different.  Oh wait, people usually don&#039;t speak up until the &quot;and then they came for YOU&quot; part of the poem occurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us have been speaking up about IMA&#8217;s issues since nearly day 1 when the forum was on eBay&#8217;s boards and we spoke up to everyone who would listen, including ex BODs.  After being accused of being a mole, trying to take IMA down, having a grand agenda against IMA, being a PESA plant, having an axe to grind, and just about every other conspiracy theory under the sun, it got old being the one constantly standing up ALONE.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit ironic and hypocritical for people to NOW rewrite history and act like they voiced concerns all along or have some holy martyr cross to bear, especially as some of those NOW voicing concerns were some of the ones who were bashing those few souls who DID speak up long ago.  IMA has always had issues and a few brave people DID speak up against them loudly and repeatedly before this latest implosion started.</p>
<p>Maybe if those speaking up now spoke up earlier or had removed their lips from Steve&#8217;s koolaid fountain, this would not have happened and things could&#8217;ve been different.  Oh wait, people usually don&#8217;t speak up until the &#8220;and then they came for YOU&#8221; part of the poem occurs.</p>
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		<title>By: get real</title>
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		<dc:creator>get real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Larry, I applaud you for finally speaking up and clearing up the past. Especially apologizing to those who have been offended by what&#039;s been said in the past. Thank you for doing this.

I truly have no beef with you at all. I just don&#039;t really care for the strong minded, power hungry members who aren&#039;t owning up to their part in all of this mess. It has left a bad taste for many people. And it&#039;s not all of Steve&#039;s doing, while he was the leader of the pack.

So,,I am just expressing my views, as it is time to allow people who feel they have been crucified in some way for no reason, to speak up without being beat up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Larry, I applaud you for finally speaking up and clearing up the past. Especially apologizing to those who have been offended by what&#8217;s been said in the past. Thank you for doing this.</p>
<p>I truly have no beef with you at all. I just don&#8217;t really care for the strong minded, power hungry members who aren&#8217;t owning up to their part in all of this mess. It has left a bad taste for many people. And it&#8217;s not all of Steve&#8217;s doing, while he was the leader of the pack.</p>
<p>So,,I am just expressing my views, as it is time to allow people who feel they have been crucified in some way for no reason, to speak up without being beat up.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get real,

No, I don&#039;t want to beat you up because you are speaking up.  I applaud it.  There are one, possibly two people who I know I treated wrong.  And I have apologized to them.  

You have not identified yourself, so I don&#039;t know who you are, but if you wish to identify yourself, either publicly or privately, I will be happy to discuss specifics with you.  I do not believe that I have participated in a &quot;gang fight&quot; in an awfully long time.  But I totally know that I&#039;m no angel, and I&#039;ve done some people wrong.  I can be very emotional, the same as many other people, and sometimes say something that I wish I hadn&#039;t of said.  For that I humbly apologize. 

I don&#039;t think I was ever Steve&#039;s assistant, but as I said before, there were times I agreed with his message, I just disagreed with the way he delivered it.  Sometimes I let him know, sometimes I didn&#039;t.  Again, I had the organization&#039;s best interest in mind, and had to make decisions as to when to protest, when to try and divert his attention, and when to do nothing.  I did the best I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get real,</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t want to beat you up because you are speaking up.  I applaud it.  There are one, possibly two people who I know I treated wrong.  And I have apologized to them.  </p>
<p>You have not identified yourself, so I don&#8217;t know who you are, but if you wish to identify yourself, either publicly or privately, I will be happy to discuss specifics with you.  I do not believe that I have participated in a &#8220;gang fight&#8221; in an awfully long time.  But I totally know that I&#8217;m no angel, and I&#8217;ve done some people wrong.  I can be very emotional, the same as many other people, and sometimes say something that I wish I hadn&#8217;t of said.  For that I humbly apologize. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I was ever Steve&#8217;s assistant, but as I said before, there were times I agreed with his message, I just disagreed with the way he delivered it.  Sometimes I let him know, sometimes I didn&#8217;t.  Again, I had the organization&#8217;s best interest in mind, and had to make decisions as to when to protest, when to try and divert his attention, and when to do nothing.  I did the best I can.</p>
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		<title>By: get real</title>
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		<dc:creator>get real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU say: So before you go and assume that the rest of us were complacent, or didn’t care, you should check us out.


Oh, I have checked you all out. You&#039;re no angel and neither are many of the screamers right now. You can BLAME steve for everything, like all of these disgruntled members. But some of you were no better. 

And if you read my post, no where do I &quot;assume&quot; anything. I know all about the ins and outs of IMA first hand. So don&#039;t YOU assume anything.

I&#039;ve seen your posts on the ps board as well. And you have not acted in a professional respectful manner until now.  Go search some of the old IMA posts. You&#039;ll see who participated in the gang fight on the powerseller board.  And if you&#039;re going to state that none of the IMA members saw the posts and how members were publicly treated people, that&#039;s another drink of kool-aid. 

If you want to beat me up because I&#039;m speaking up. Feel free. I can&#039;t imagine how you must feel being taken on a joy ride by an ego maniac who only cares about his own agenda. But you were perhaps an assistant who went along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU say: So before you go and assume that the rest of us were complacent, or didn’t care, you should check us out.</p>
<p>Oh, I have checked you all out. You&#8217;re no angel and neither are many of the screamers right now. You can BLAME steve for everything, like all of these disgruntled members. But some of you were no better. </p>
<p>And if you read my post, no where do I &#8220;assume&#8221; anything. I know all about the ins and outs of IMA first hand. So don&#8217;t YOU assume anything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen your posts on the ps board as well. And you have not acted in a professional respectful manner until now.  Go search some of the old IMA posts. You&#8217;ll see who participated in the gang fight on the powerseller board.  And if you&#8217;re going to state that none of the IMA members saw the posts and how members were publicly treated people, that&#8217;s another drink of kool-aid. </p>
<p>If you want to beat me up because I&#8217;m speaking up. Feel free. I can&#8217;t imagine how you must feel being taken on a joy ride by an ego maniac who only cares about his own agenda. But you were perhaps an assistant who went along.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get Real - I&#039;ll accept some guilt for not standing up earlier.  You are correct.  Steve&#039;s arrogance, nastiness, and insults have been going on for a long time.  I don&#039;t believe I ever handled myself that way.  When I participated, I tried to take a more professional and appropriate perspective, hoping I could stop Steve from lashing out for the good of the organization.  Many times, I didn&#039;t disagree with his message, I disagreed with his delivery of that message.

As a Board member, and an IMA member, I had to pick and choose my battles.  Trust me, I was on Steve&#039;s &quot;nuisance&quot; list because I did frequently challenge him.  But my mission was always to do the best thing for the organization, and that sometimes directed my actions, possibly in a way that you saw as accepting of his demeanor.  That wasn&#039;t the case. 

So before you go and assume that the rest of us were complacent, or didn&#039;t care, you should check us out.  You may find the story is not what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get Real &#8211; I&#8217;ll accept some guilt for not standing up earlier.  You are correct.  Steve&#8217;s arrogance, nastiness, and insults have been going on for a long time.  I don&#8217;t believe I ever handled myself that way.  When I participated, I tried to take a more professional and appropriate perspective, hoping I could stop Steve from lashing out for the good of the organization.  Many times, I didn&#8217;t disagree with his message, I disagreed with his delivery of that message.</p>
<p>As a Board member, and an IMA member, I had to pick and choose my battles.  Trust me, I was on Steve&#8217;s &#8220;nuisance&#8221; list because I did frequently challenge him.  But my mission was always to do the best thing for the organization, and that sometimes directed my actions, possibly in a way that you saw as accepting of his demeanor.  That wasn&#8217;t the case. </p>
<p>So before you go and assume that the rest of us were complacent, or didn&#8217;t care, you should check us out.  You may find the story is not what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Levitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Levitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an interesting point, and as you all know, I agree. I didn&#039;t like what was happening on the IMA board, and have stood up for the people who have felt crapped on. 

Where was everybody else? Why was everybody waiting for someone else to stand up to it? 

I hope we all learn from this... the next time you see yourself or someone else being crapped on, especially by a power-hungry weirdo, STAND UP. Don&#039;t enable that person. Don&#039;t assume he&#039;ll go away because he doesn&#039;t. He may change venues, but he doesn&#039;t go away. We have to stand up to him and let him know he can&#039;t get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point, and as you all know, I agree. I didn&#8217;t like what was happening on the IMA board, and have stood up for the people who have felt crapped on. </p>
<p>Where was everybody else? Why was everybody waiting for someone else to stand up to it? </p>
<p>I hope we all learn from this&#8230; the next time you see yourself or someone else being crapped on, especially by a power-hungry weirdo, STAND UP. Don&#8217;t enable that person. Don&#8217;t assume he&#8217;ll go away because he doesn&#8217;t. He may change venues, but he doesn&#8217;t go away. We have to stand up to him and let him know he can&#8217;t get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get real, say what you will. Everyone had a part in this, there is no denial from many of us on that. So please, feel free to point away. 

The difference is when some of us gave us the IMA Kool-aid we realized what dolts we had been and were trying to right the wrongs. At that point we were shut down and shut out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get real, say what you will. Everyone had a part in this, there is no denial from many of us on that. So please, feel free to point away. </p>
<p>The difference is when some of us gave us the IMA Kool-aid we realized what dolts we had been and were trying to right the wrongs. At that point we were shut down and shut out.</p>
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		<title>By: get real</title>
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		<dc:creator>get real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I have a question for all of you innocent victims of this IMA mess. Who is more guilty???? the head of IMA and other members who were rude and nasty, or the members of this group/cult who just sat around and watched others be ripped apart on their on private board and on the powerseller board over the past year?  

If you sat around and just watched, you closed your eyes and sold your soul just to belong to this group/cult!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I have a question for all of you innocent victims of this IMA mess. Who is more guilty???? the head of IMA and other members who were rude and nasty, or the members of this group/cult who just sat around and watched others be ripped apart on their on private board and on the powerseller board over the past year?  </p>
<p>If you sat around and just watched, you closed your eyes and sold your soul just to belong to this group/cult!</p>
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